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Tap Yourself In: The Osso VR Story

with Dr. Justin Barad

We talk with orthopedic surgeon Dr. Justin Barad about how virtual reality (VR) can address gaps in surgical education. Dr. Barad also shares the story of how he started Osso VR, a surgical training and assessment platform.

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Ep 21 Tap Yourself In: The Osso VR Story with Dr. Justin Barad
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BackTable, LLC (Producer). (2022, April 8). Ep. 21 – Tap Yourself In: The Osso VR Story [Audio podcast]. Retrieved from https://www.backtable.com

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Dr. Justin Barad on the BackTable Industry Podcast

Dr. Justin Barad is a pediatric orthopaedic surgeon and the founder and CEO of Osso VR.

Dr. Eric Gantwerker on the BackTable Industry Podcast

Eric Gantwerker is a Pediatric Otolaryngologist at Cohen Children's Hospital at Northwell Health/Hofstra, Associate Professor of Otolaryngology at Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell, and Vice President, Medical Director at Level Ex.

Synopsis

In this episode, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Justin Barad and our host Dr. Eric Gantwerker discuss how virtual reality (VR) can address gaps in surgical education and Dr. Barad’s journey of starting Osso VR, a surgical training and assessment platform.

Dr. Barad starts by acknowledging that there is a misconception that VR is trying to replace traditional surgical training. He emphasizes that VR can supplement surgical education because it provides trainees with methods of objective assessment and increased opportunities to practice. In order to encourage adoption of this new technology, Dr. Barad cites the importance of finding common goals for better patient care and showing respect for previous systems of education.

The story of Osso VR started from a recognized need for more breadth and volume of cases in surgical residencies. Dr. Barad highlights the inefficient nature of waiting for random chance to bring different types of cases to arrive in the operating room, as opposed to practicing on a wide variety of cases through VR. He emphasizes that high accessibility of VR is more important than trying to achieve extreme fidelity in replicating surgical instruments.

Finally, we discuss how surgery requires more cognitive skills than ever before, and how VR can help train surgeons to form plans, make decisions, and manage teams.

Resources

Osso VR:
https://www.ossovr.com/

Video games and surgical ability: a literature review:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20630431/

“The Hard Thing About Hard Things” by Ben Horowitz:
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Thing-About-Things-Building/dp/0062273205

The Materials available on BackTable are for informational and educational purposes only and are not a substitute for the professional judgment of a healthcare professional in diagnosing and treating patients. The opinions expressed by participants of the BackTable Podcast belong solely to the participants, and do not necessarily reflect the views of BackTable.

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