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BackTable / VI / Podcast / Episode #575

Physician Employment Models: Exploring Benefits & Challenges

with Dr. Ryan Trojan

Could hospital employment be your path to practicing 100% interventional radiology (IR)? In this episode of BackTable, host Dr. Ally Baheti sits down with Dr. Ryan Trojan, an interventional radiologist at INTEGRIS Health in Oklahoma City, to discuss the pros and cons of hospital employment contracts in IR.

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Ep 575 Physician Employment Models: Exploring Benefits & Challenges with Dr. Ryan Trojan
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BackTable, LLC (Producer). (2025, September 23). Ep. 575 – Physician Employment Models: Exploring Benefits & Challenges [Audio podcast]. Retrieved from https://www.backtable.com

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Podcast Contributors

Dr. Aparna Baheti on the BackTable VI Podcast

Dr. Aparna Baheti is a practicing Interventional Radiologist in Tacoma, Washington.

Dr. Ryan Trojan on the BackTable VI Podcast

Dr. Ryan Trojan as a practicing Interventional Radiologist with Integris Health in Oklahoma City.

Synopsis

The physicians take a deep dive into the evolving employment models in the IR landscape. Dr. Trojan shares his journey from a private IR-DR blended practice to becoming directly employed by a hospital, highlighting the financial challenges, contract negotiations, and administrative dynamics along the way. He explains the growing loss of IR talent to lucrative diagnostic contracts and emphasizes the importance of advocating for IR’s value to hospital systems, from decreasing length of stay to supporting ECMO, trauma, and transplant services. The discussion covers financial security, administrative support, and the benefits of having aligned goals with the hospital in order to grow an IR practice. Dr. Trojan also addresses common misconceptions about IR and private practice, detailing how the landscape is likely to change over the coming years, and offers advice on navigating employment contracts.

Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction
03:02 - Transition to Hospital Employment
12:15 - Advocating for IR’s Value
16:07 - Contract Structures and Compensation Models
25:07 - Benefits and Downsides of the Employed Model
28:27 - Negotiating Contracts and Fair Market Value
41:12 - Conclusion

Resources

Dr. Trojan’s contact information
ryan.trojan@integrishealth.org

The Materials available on BackTable are for informational and educational purposes only and are not a substitute for the professional judgment of a healthcare professional in diagnosing and treating patients. The opinions expressed by participants of the BackTable Podcast belong solely to the participants, and do not necessarily reflect the views of BackTable.

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