BackTable / VI / Podcast / Episode #240
Changing VIR Training Paradigms
with Dr. Zaeem Billah, Dr. Kartik Kansagra, and Dr. Geogy Vatakencherry
In this episode, guest host Dr. Donald Garbett interviews Drs. Geogy Vatakencherry, Zaeem Billah, and Kartik Kansagra about the IR integrated residency, how it’s evolving, and what students should be doing to prepare for this rigorous training program.
BackTable, LLC (Producer). (2022, September 5). Ep. 240 – Changing VIR Training Paradigms [Audio podcast]. Retrieved from https://www.backtable.com
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Dr. Kartik Kansagra
Dr. Kartik Kansagra is a vascular and interventional radiology resident at Kaiser Permanente Los Angeles Medical Center in California.
Dr. Zaeem Billah
Dr. Zaeem Billah is a vascular and interventional radiology resident at Kaiser Permanente Los Angeles Medical Center in California.
Dr. Geogy Vatakencherry
Dr. Geogy Vatakencherry is the VIR program director at Kaiser Permanente Los Angeles Medical Center in California.
Dr. Donald Garbett
Dr. Donald Garbett is a practicing Vascular and Interventional Radiologist at Minimally Invasive Specialists in Eugene, Oregon.
We begin by discussing the VIR program at Kaiser LA. As the program director, Dr. Vatakencherry discusses how he built his residency program and how it has evolved since the inception of the integrated iR residencies. One integral part of this program is weekly continuity clinic, starting in your first year. Dr. Kansagra brought up the idea to Dr. Vatakencherry after noticing that other surgical specialties and interventional cardiology were doing this. This model allows residents to develop longitudinal relationships with patients, understand disease progression and the importance of preventive care and nonoperative management.
Next, Dr. Billah discusses his training at Kaiser LA, as a resident in the first year of the new integrated IR residency. They have a categorical program, with a surgery intern year included. He highly suggests that all IR residents should do a surgery year due to its similarity to IR and the skills it provides you. Whether on DR, ICU or IR, all IR residents have daily IR conferences. ICU training begins in the first year, which includes MICU, SICU and CCU rotations. In the PGY-5 year, they get consecutive rotations in stroke neurology and neurointervention.
Finally we discuss the future of the VIR integrated residency. Dr. Vatakencherry believes that clinic time is quintessential during IR residency to understand the nuances of “should vs. could” when it comes to operative intervention. In clinic, not only do you see what you do well but more importantly, you see what you don't do well and how you can fix that. This clinical experience cannot be replicated in a year of fellowship. Lastly, Dr. Vatakencherry gives some extremely pertinent advice to fourth year medical students applying to IR integrated residency.
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