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The Making of a "Good" IR

with Dr. Lola Oladini

Dr. Eric Keller talks with Dr. Lola Oladini from Stanford Medicine Department of Radiology about what makes optimal training for Interventional Radiologists, including discussion on the variety of strengths of programs across the country, balancing diagnostics with procedural training, and what it means in being a "clinical IR".

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Podcast Contributors

Dr. Lola Oladini discusses The Making of a "Good" IR on the BackTable 171 Podcast

Dr. Lola Oladini

Dr. Lola Oladini is an interventional radiology resident at Stanford Health Care in California.

Dr. Eric Keller discusses The Making of a "Good" IR on the BackTable 171 Podcast

Dr. Eric Keller

Dr. Eric Keller is an interventional and diagnostic radiology resident physician at Stanford.

Show Notes

In this episode, interventional radiology residents Dr. Lola Oladini and Dr. Eric Keller discuss ideas to strengthen IR/DR residency training in multiple aspects, including clinical exposure, practice building, and personalization for the learner’s career goals.

Dr. Oladini shares preliminary results from her research, which consisted of interviews with various IR stakeholders. She highlights common themes on what interviewees value in a residency program: longitudinal patient care experience, practice-building education, exposure to interdisciplinary collaboration, exposure to clinical decision making, strong diagnostic radiology training, and graduated autonomy. She also shares common concerns that interviewees had about the disconnects between clinical education in residency training and real world practices that may not have the same clinical focus. Additionally, residents spoke about balancing the paradigm between wanting to get early IR exposure and training to be excellent diagnostic radiologists.

Finally, the doctors discuss different interpretations of the commonly used term, “clinical IR,” and brainstorm ways that residency programs can involve trainees in patient-centered initiatives and cross-speciality relationship building.


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