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BackTable / VI / Podcast / Episode #414

HeRO Grafts in Dialysis: Techniques, Challenges & Solutions

with Dr. Jason Wagner

In this episode, host Dr. Chris Beck interviews Dr. Jason Wagner about his experience with the Hemodialysis Reliable Outflow (HeRO) graft and the Surfacer system for treating patients with end stage renal disease (ESRD) and limited vascular access options. Dr. Wagner is a practicing vascular surgeon in Sarasota, Florida.

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Ep 414 HeRO Grafts in Dialysis: Techniques, Challenges & Solutions with Dr. Jason Wagner
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Podcast Contributors

Dr. Christopher Beck on the BackTable VI Podcast

Dr. Chris Beck is a practicing interventional radiologist with Regional Radiology Group in New Orleans.

Dr. Jason Wagner on the BackTable VI Podcast

Dr. Jason Wagner is a practicing vascular surgeon in Sarasota, Florida.

Synopsis

Dr. Wagner explains the steps to implant a HeRO endovascular graft, how it provides a durable and reliable outflow for hemodialysis patients, and how it can be used and revised based on the patient’s needs. He also discusses the Surfacer system in obtaining central venous access, its advantages, and the necessity of preoperative imaging. Dr. Wagner emphasizes the critical role of continued learning in utilizing and optimizing these advanced dialysis solutions.

The suggestions and other information, which may include Merit products, are for the practitioner’s convenience and for general information purposes only. This information does not constitute medical or legal advice. Before using, refer to the Instructions for Use (IFU) for indications, contraindications, warnings, precautions, and directions for use.

Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction
02:25 - Dr. Wagner’s Experience in Vascular Surgery
05:49 - Understanding End-Stage Vascular Access
08:52 - Introduction to the HeRO Graft
16:15 - Implantation of the HeRO Graft
28:38 - The Surfacer: A Game Changer in Vascular Access
31:49 - Potential Risks and Precautions with the Surfacer
33:38 - Using Both HeRO Graft and Surfacer
36:31 - Final Thoughts and Resources on Both Devices

Resources

Think Dialysis Access Course from Merit:
https://www.merit.com/education/courses/thinkaccess/

HeRO Graft: Indications, Technique, Outcomes, and Secondary Intervention:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8856774/

KDOQI Clinical Practice Guideline for Vascular Access: 2019 Update:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32778223/

The Surfacer:
https://bluegrassvascular.com/surfacer-2/

Transcript Preview

[Dr. Jason Wagner]
The best way I can describe a HeRO, it stands for Hemodialysis Reliable Outflow. The idea of reliable outflow hemodialysis, some would say that's a misnomer. It's like never event, it's not a thing. With HeRO, it is. The best way to describe it and the way I tell my patients, I say, "Think back to like the '60s or the '70s or whatever they last manufactured the El Camino. It's a pickup truck in the back and it's a car in the front. It's like a pickup car."

The HeRO, it's a graft by the arterial anastomosis. It's a graft up the arm, but then instead of plugging into the vein, it clicks in with a very sleek titanium connector into what basically is a 20 French stent that's embedded inside of a silastic, like a silicone tube. Basically, it's the best aspects of both a graft where it could be inserted quickly and used quickly. It's a suture arterial anastomosis, but then you're skipping beyond the entire axillary and subclavian segment, and pry straight to the jugular and straight down to the SVC and the caper atrial junction.

The nice thing is you're getting a good large border catheter for your outflow, and you have a graft component immediately available to be cannulated in a couple of weeks if you're using a standard graft or if you use the Super HeRO, which is even better branding.

The Materials available on BackTable are for informational and educational purposes only and are not a substitute for the professional judgment of a healthcare professional in diagnosing and treating patients. The opinions expressed by participants of the BackTable Podcast belong solely to the participants, and do not necessarily reflect the views of BackTable.

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