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Interventional Radiology’s Evolution: Insights from Dr. Ernest Ring with Dr. Ernie Ring, Dr. Peder Horner on the BackTable VI Podcast
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Episode # 614  •  06 Feb 2026

Interventional Radiology’s Evolution: Insights from Dr. Ernest Ring

with Dr. Ernie Ring, Dr. Peder Horner

Have you ever wondered what it was like to be in the room when the first pelvic embolization was performed or how the TIPS procedure was pioneered? Dr. Ernie Ring, a legendary figure from UCSF and a true forefather of Interventional Radiology, joins host Dr. Peder Horner to recount the early days of the specialty. Dr. Ring shares fascinating stories from his training at Massachusetts General Hospital under Dr. Stanley Baum, where he witnessed the birth of transformative techniques using angiographic catheters to treat life-threatening bleeding.

Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction
01:58 - Upbringing from Detroit to Mass Gen
06:55 - Early IR with an Embo Case
13:50 - Trailblazing Cases in IR
16:17 - Penn and Innovation
20:00 - Polarizing Procedures
24:13 - IR Device Innovation
33:00 - Dotter’s Separation from Diagnostics
37:30 - Fear Finds Cowboys
39:08 - AI and Robotics
40:08 - Fun Hobbies

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More about this episode

From improvising the use of autologous blood clot and thrombin to stop massive hemorrhages to his pivotal role in developing the TIPS procedure and specialized biliary catheters, Dr. Ring’s career is loaded with innovation. The conversation explores the "cowboy" era of IR, the evolution of essential tools like the glide wire, and the critical importance of maintaining a "high-touch" clinical practice in the face of emerging technologies like AI. Dr. Ring also reflects on his later transition into hospital leadership as Chief Medical Officer, where he applied his problem-solving mindset to institutional quality and safety.

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